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WB5KAN: Well, it's 15 after the hour ... should we get started?
Jurian: I added that feature so if you wanna say something that shouldn't be on the web, you can use the nolog thingie :)
Jurian: sure :)
KL0TW: Yes
WB5KAN: Ok, bring up a small window showing the upper left corner of the IC-707 ...
obany: okay let's start
WB5KAN: while at the same time being able to read my comments.
WB5KAN: everyone ready?
TinMan: yes
KL0TW: Yes
obany: yes
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KL0TW: Uh-oh. He hit the wrong button
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obany: and again :)
KL0TW: He is off line
KL0TW: I stayed with him for a week. I can hear what he is saying right now . $^%%#&&$##
KL0TW: Smoke em if ya got em
obany: maybe he made a mistake or so pressed a wrong button or so
Jurian: hehe :)
* Jurian disabled alt+f4 :-)
TinMan: easy to do
Jurian: not in NT :P
KL0TW: This radio costs about $650. Good price
obany: it's not that expensive .. most HAM radios for what i read are more expensive
Jurian: yeah.. I was thinking though.. it'll be smart to have a bunch of CB mobiles as well.. for communications with "base camp" if you need to go away on the field for food or whatever
TinMan: The last radio club meeting I went to had a person talking about QRP
KL0TW: Technology is catching up with them and lowering the price.
Jurian: can't go carrying around with a HAM radio.. too expensive.. CB's however are easy to use, light and small :)
KL0TW: 2ntr is small. Like a cell phone.
TinMan: It was nice to hear with 200 mili watts one can comuicate to japan and accross state on the first try
KL0TW: 2 mtr
Jurian: true :)
Jurian: but are they as affordable as CB mobiles?
Jurian: cause we're gonna need a bunch :)
KL0TW: $150 - $200 ?
TinMan: $15 for 200 mili-watt
KL0TW: Cool
Jurian: $15 !? woah.. get me 2! :)
obany: sounds good
TinMan: QRP is a growing number of hams who see how little power it takes to communicate
TinMan: this unit was a kit he built in a couple of hrs
Jurian: cool :)
TinMan: I will send the site of where you can order it to tt-radio
KL0TW: Thanks
TinMan: after this talk
obany: seems Ron has some problems with his connection
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Jurian: yeah
KL0TW: He is back online now
TinMan: there was another kit for a couple of hundred that had more functionality
KL0TW: WB
Jurian: oby: couldn't you say that sooner? it seemed to help :P
obany: okay welcome back Ron
WB5KAN: sorry ... crashed
Jurian: hehe.. M$ :)
WB5KAN: need to get my web pages up ... just a moment.
obany: NT is m$ to so Jurian ;)))
Jurian: yeah.. but not as buggy as 95/98/98SE :P
Jurian: Uptime: 6days 2hrs 16secs
Jurian: try that with win95
Jurian: or 98 even
Jurian: 9:35pm up 12 days, 2:12, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00
Jurian: or that :P
Jurian: 9:32pm up 25 days, 8:00, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
WB5KAN: Ok ...
Jurian: or that haha
WB5KAN: In the upper left corner in the on/off switch ...
obany: okay okay Jurian you made your point now let's start the chat :)))
* Jurian has shut up and is listening/reading
WB5KAN: I would like to take a quick look at the spec sheet on the other web page ...
WB5KAN: scroll down the spec sheet till you come to Current Drain ...
WB5KAN: The input voltage in 14.8 V DC ... or 12 volts, like from a battery ...
KL0TW: 13.4?
WB5KAN: Notice that when in transmit mode the current drain on the battery is 20 amps
WB5KAN: Clipper, 13.4 is the normal output from an auto alternator or a power supply that will charge a 12 volt battery.
TinMan: woudn't this depend on transmit power?
WB5KAN: Yes, the 20 A is maximum with 100 watts output ...
WB5KAN: it will go down as you decrease the output power ...
Jurian: 20 amps.. and I though my 10 amp regulated power supply was heavy..
obany: :)
Jurian: 20 amps can be lethal hehe
Jurian: anyway.. sorry.. go on ron
WB5KAN: Notice that in receive mode the current drain is only 1.3 A with no audio, and 2.1 A with the audio turned up all the way.
TinMan: not a 12 volts - ristance of body is too high
WB5KAN: Questions,
WB5KAN: Ok ...
WB5KAN: Below the On/Off switch is a button called Tuner ...
WB5KAN: this only functions is you have the optional antenna tuner ...
Jurian: tinman: if you're in bath, and you get 12V/20Amps in it.. you're fried.. or at least cooked pretty well :)
WB5KAN: which is listed at the bottom of the spec page under options ...
WB5KAN: let's take a look ...
WB5KAN: There are several antenna tuners listed ...
TinMan: No - not so but this is a discussion for another time and place
Jurian: yeah
WB5KAN: The least expensive is the AT-160, which will automatically match 50 ohm coax to the transceiver ...
WB5KAN: The AT-150 will also match one end of a long wire antenna ...
WB5KAN: My recomendation is the AT-160. Questions?
KL0TW: None
Jurian: none
WB5KAN: Just below the antenna tuners are DC power supplies ...
WB5KAN: I recommend the PS-85 ...
WB5KAN: Better yet, I don't use one of these type supplies on my 12 V transceiver ...
WB5KAN: I just use a deep cycle marine battery with a tricle charger on it all the time ...
KL0TW: A 1 amp trickle charger?
WB5KAN: Less expensive, works just as good, and works when the AC power goes down. Questions?
WB5KAN: ok ...
TinMan: will the at-150 work with linear Amps?
WB5KAN: Below the Tuner Button, is just the jack where you plug a push-to-talk microphone in
Jurian: where to get a deep cycle marine battery?
Jurian: for $not-too-expensive
KL0TW: Most any battery supply place has them
WB5KAN: Yes, the 100 watts output will drive a 2000 watt linear amplifier
Jurian: cool :)
WB5KAN: You can get an 850 amp hour 12 volt marine battery in the US for about $60 USD.
WB5KAN: ok ...
WB5KAN: to the right of the Tuner button is the RIT control we talked about last week. Questions about use of the RIT?
Jurian: nope
WB5KAN: ok ..
KL0TW: There will always be questions. But the log will help later
WB5KAN: Below the RIT control is a dual control ...
TinMan: is this a pot that controls level of rit?
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WB5KAN: the inner control is for the Audio loudness ...
WB5KAN: while the outter control is a squelch, just like on a CB transceiver. Any questions about Squelch?
Jurian: nope
KL0TW: No
WB5KAN: ok ...
TinMan: ok
WB5KAN: to the right of the RIT control is the on/off switch for RIT ... questions?
WB5KAN: ok ...
* Jurian gone for a while.. family time :-)
WB5KAN: Below is the control that toggles between normal receive, boosted receive, and attenulated receive ... it's current state is reflected in the display above. Q?
WB5KAN: ok ...
WB5KAN: below that is the Noise Blanker on/off switch ... we talked about noise blanking last week, but any questions?
KL0TW: No
WB5KAN: ok...
WB5KAN: on the right of the RIT switch is the TS switch which controls the bottom line of the meter on the display ...
WB5KAN: it toggels the bottom line between Power Output, SWR, and ALC. Questions?
WB5KAN: ok ...
TinMan: is this over under PO?
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WB5KAN: Mike, over PO is the signal strength meter, which is only in operation during receive ...
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WB5KAN: the next button controls whether or not you are operating split mode, where receive frequency is controled by the A vfo and transmit freq is controlled by the B VFO. this button simply turns split mode on and off. Q?
WB5KAN: ok ...
KL0TW: None
WB5KAN: the next button, when pressed, writes the active VFO frequency and current mode into one of the memory channels ...
Jurian: ( sorry about logbot going offline.. stupid NT server crashed )
WB5KAN: I suspect that you first switch to memory channel mode and select the channel ...
WB5KAN: then switch to VFO mode, selecting the desired VFO and tuning the desired frequency ...
WB5KAN: press the button and the info is stored in that memory channel. Q?
WB5KAN: ok ...
WB5KAN: Now, let's go back to the top button, FUNC ...
WB5KAN: the use of FUNC (or Function) is always a two step operation ...
WB5KAN: to change from VFO mode to Channel mode, you first press FUNC and then the second button A/B or actually, V/M which toggels the mode between VFO controlled or memory channel control. Q?
WB5KAN: ok...
WB5KAN: Func/A=B sets the unused VFO to the same frequency as the VFO currently being used. Q?
WB5KAN: ok...
TinMan: don
TinMan: don't understand why func and a=b both need to be hit coudn't this be have been designed for just a=b
WB5KAN: FUNC/M > VFO sets the currently selected VFO to the frequency and mode stored in the currently selected memory channel. Q?
WB5KAN: ok ...
KL0TW: Tinman had a question above
WB5KAN: I think we have covered all the controls ... any general questions ... Mike?
TinMan: just why the concept of func couldn't this be done with out it?
WB5KAN: Yes, but more buttons would be required and they were trying to conserve as much space as possable ...
WB5KAN: you will find that all modern transceivers will use FUNC very heavily.
WB5KAN: This is the most simple modern HF transceiver I have seen. ...
WB5KAN: Many features of more expensive transceivers aren't available. Next week I hope to be able to use video to demonstrate a modern transceiver with many more features than is offered by this transceiver. k
KL0TW: I hope we can do that
WB5KAN: I'm open for questions or comments.
WB5KAN: Clipper, can we schedule a time to check out some of this new video software?
KL0TW: Sure
WB5KAN: Actually, anyone
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TinMan: I got confused with where the SWR shows up on the display? I am guessing it shows up in place of the PO but don't know for sure.
WB5KAN: Yes, your guess is correct. The TS button toggels the PO between power out, swr, and alc when in transmit mode. k
WB5KAN: more ...
WB5KAN: Every transceiver has a meter of some sort. When in receive mode it is showing the signal strength being received; while in transmit mode it indicates some transmit related function which is controlled by some switch. K
WB5KAN: We have another 15 minutes to chat, and close the formal portion of this session.
KL0TW: Okay
WB5KAN: This session is now officially closed until next week. As they say, the net is now open for general use. k

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