ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for January 14, 2012
I am reading Richard Dolan's book "UFO's and the National Security State, Volume One" and I came across a section about James Forrestal. I had come across his tragic story before. He was the first Secretary of State as the armed forces were brought together after WWII. What makes him unique is that he seemed to have a serious mental breakdown and to have killed himself by hanging himself from the window of the National Naval Medical Hospital in Bethesda. But there are many inconsistencies to these events. Why did he kill himself on the day of his release? Why did his brother deny that he had a mental breakdown? Why was the bathroom sash wrapped around his neck but not tied to the radiator, supposedly breaking and sending him on a fall down several stories? This was a turbulent time on many fronts, intelligence agencies fighting each other, military branches fighting each other, the rise of Israel, the cold war with Communism intensifying and then the constant detection of UFO's just added to the confusion. With many theories going around on who may have killed him, Zionists, Communists, domestic intelligence agencies, domestic military agencies, I was wondering if the Zeta's could shed some light on what happened. Was he killed for what he knew? He had stated that he was going to write a book once he left the hospital. According to the intelligence sources at the time, it was stated that the secrecy level of UFO's was "two steps higher than the H-bomb." As the Zeta's have mentioned, this was the critical period in time that extraterrestrials, both good and bad, had made contact with the U.S. government. Was he involved in this contact that closely? [and from another] http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword07x.htm One of the documents is a purported 1947 memo from President Harry S. Truman to Secretary of Defense James Forrestal that sets up a top-secret U.S. government operation called "Majestic Twelve" to investigate extraterrestrials. [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892 - May 22, 1949) was the last Cabinet-level United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense. In 1947, President Harry S. Truman appointed him the first United States Secretary of Defense. In 1949, angered over Forrestal's continued opposition to his defense economization policies, and concerned about reports in the press over his mental condition, Truman abruptly asked Forrestal to resign. By March 31, 1949, Forrestal was out of a job. President Truman's decision to dismiss him as Secretary of Defense on March 31, 1949 is said to have caused him to suffer a "nervous breakdown", a charge denied by Forrestal's brother. [and from another] http://www.keyholepublishing.com/Death%20of%20James%20Forrestal.htm The sensitivity of the UFO problem meant that Forrestal's mental deterioration was a real security risk.
Forrestal was of course thrown or dropped to his death, after having been drugged to silence any screams, as has long been suspected. Drugging and
institutionalizing someone is a favored means of silencing a leak. In some cases the leak complies and is spared, but in most cases the issue progresses to an
assassination. The only issue open for speculation in Forrestal's case is the exact reason for his death sentence. After having been given such a central role in the
formation of the new Department of Defence, and in the formulation of MJ12 under the direction of President Truman, how did he fall out of favor and who had the
authority to order his death?
This was a case where Forrestal became arrogant and over confident in the power he wielded. He knew where the bodies were buried, so to speak, and was completely versed in the full history of the Roswell saga. Truman wanted to enforce fiscal restraint on the burgeoning DOD, and Forrestal resisted. Forrestal also feared being removed by the new incoming President Elect, Dewey. We have relayed that the rules within MJ12 were such that members signed an agreement that they could be killed if they stood to profit by their membership or were about to reveal the existence of the organization or any secrets it possessed. Thus Forrestal's death sentence had been signed by none other than his own hand!
Can the Zetas give an explanation of the Bell Witch Haunting in Tennessee 1817-1828? What was this being that terrorized the Bell family? The Zetatalk explanation of Poltergeists does seem to explain some early things like the wall knockings and bed sheets pulling but not all happenings here. How could the being appear as animals, give physical abuse, develop a voice and have intelligent conversations, shake hands with people, stop horses and carriages from moving... etc. like the Pat Fitzhugh book The Bell Witch: The Full Account and other books claim to have happened? http://www.bellwitch.org/home.htm [and from another] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Witch According to the legend, the first reported manifestation of the haunting occurred in 1817 when John Bell, Sr., encountered a strange animal in a cornfield on his large farm in Robertson County, on the Red River, near Adams, Tennessee. Bell shot at the animal, described as having the body of a dog and the head of a rabbit. At a later date the Bell family claimed to hear knocking and gnawing noises on the outside walls of their house. These noises eventually moved inside the dwelling. Some time after the noises began, Betsy Bell (the family's youngest daughter) claimed to have been assaulted by an invisible force. The legend continues with the poltergeist gaining strength, moving various objects about, speaking and having conversations with the family and guests. It identified itself as "Kate Batts", a neighbor of the Bells that John had apparently upset in some way.
The Bell Witch story is a classic example of poltergeist activity, and though carried forward with some exaggeration, particularly in the movie rendition, is a true
story. As we have explained, poltergeist is produced from the Theta brain waves of a very angry person. Those humans capable of producing these waves to the
degree necessary at times learn to demonstrate this on the stage, moving objects sufficiently to amaze the audience. But such demonstrations rarely reach the drama
of the real thing - rage, great fury, unleashed.
The Bell Witch saga has been correctly analyzed to point to Betsy, who was molested by her socially prominent father. Betsy was unable to accuse her father in the society of the day, and feared repeated molestations, rape in fact. Any attempt by the family or friends to rid the household of the entity throwing objects about failed as the entity was within Betsy, who was the victim. That a witch was suspected was due to the truth being known to the slaves and thus a neighbor woman with a grudge against the father appeared to be cursing him. The poltergeist activity only abated when the truth came out and the father was in decline.
I have read the ZetaTalk response to the earth rotational stoppage and see that we would not "fall off" and possible not even notice if the slow down is gradual, but would not the converse be true, that is, would the pressure not build up when the planet's rotation stops if the centrifugal effect of the rotation is to pull us out under normal conditions. Perhaps making one feel "heavy". Maybe I just don't understand the principals of gravitational force completely enough but if someone can enlighten me. I am always aware of the effects of any change to a system when something changes outside of the normal so it would seem to me that something must change during the stoppage, perhaps the Zetas could expand on this.
Nancy is not a math person and thus does not translate concepts well in math, but we will say this. To compute the effect of a lack of centrifugal force on your
current state of gravity pull, simply compute the centrifugal force and compare that to the pull of gravity, using your human math. This type of thing was done during
the sci.astro debates but Nancy did not drive the math process, merely acted as a debate coordinator. Simplistically put, gravity pulls you down and centrifugal
force pulls you outward. Removing the latter should increase the gravity pull slightly but there are other factors at place during this time.
Folklore reports that the waters heaped high during the pole shift, and we have explained that this is due to the gravity pull of Planet X nearby. After all, the tides on Earth are caused by the gravity of the Moon, overhead, and Planet X is a monster compared to the Moon. This would certainly offset the lack of centrifugal force on the side of the Earth facing Planet X, but what of the dark side of Earth? Here this effect is likewise felt, as the flow of gravity particles toward Planet X is not restrained by the bulk of planet Earth. Gravity particles flow through all physical substance, and the gravity draw toward Planet X pulls from the dark side of Earth, through the center, and on.
Beyond these assurances, what does folklore tell us? It tells us that man neither flattened to the ground, barely able to breath or crawl, nor did he find himself floating off the face of the Earth, suspended as though gravity were nil. In fact, other than heaping waters, folklore has nothing to report! Thus you should conclude that the overall effect on your gravity will be virtually undetectable by you.
Can the Zetas comment on the mysterious sounds at Costa Rica? http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1751858/pg1 [and from another] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGz489VqHjU [and from another] Strange Sound Heard Throughout Costa Rica [Jan 11] http://www.costaricanewssite.com/strange-sound-heard-throughout-costa-rica Is it the mysterious sound of the so-called coming Apocalypse? Some think that the mysterious sound heard in Costa Rica at around 12:30am this morning is exactly that. It is important to note that this is not the wind nor was it filmed anywhere near the ocean. The sound was heard throughout the entire country from Heredia to Perez Zeledon. The Costa Rica Volcanologist and Seismologist Organization is saying there is no Earth movements recorded at the time of the strange sound.
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AUDIO of Costa Rica Drums
There is a subset of the Caribbean Plate called the Panama Plate, though this subset moves as one with the Caribbean Plate. Nevertheless, there is a fault line running through Costa Rica, and during the incessant pressure of the slow moving S American roll, fault lines can pull apart and bang back together again, like clapping. As the recent cold spells in India reveal, the N Pole of Earth is pushed violently away when the Sun is over New Zealand and the magnetic N Pole of Earth (currently over Siberia) comes up over the horizon. This equates to midnight in Costa Rica, which is when the drums were heard. Residents there should get used to these midnight drums, which will be with them for some time.
My question concerns how the river is very greatly increase the flood (sinking). Satellite view from November 1, 2011. We all remember the flood in Thailand and other countries. The fact is that if it were not for the river, flooding in Thailand would not affect two thirds of the country. The same thing happens in other countries: "Shifts in plates that caused major Himalayan rivers - Brahmaputra" http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/pakistan-satellite-image-flooded-parts-of-southern-pakistan-and Can the Zetas tell how far should stay away from rivers? Mekong and Chao Phraya river so badly swollen that flooded vast territories. We do not know how much the river can swell and flooding vast areas.
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Flooding inland in northern Thailand much preceded any sinking in Bangkok, as the inland river blockage was due to a sideways crush the Sunda Plate was
experiencing. The pressure on the Sunda Plate is not only a push down, slipping under the curve of the Indo-Australian Plate that runs under Sumatra and Java, but
also a push sideways, into accordion folds. This was apparent when the inland flooding in Thailand appeared at the same time a new island near Bali emerged.
We explained that the inland flooding in Thailand was due to blocked river drainage. Mankind is used to thinking of his rivers as though they have always flowed thus, but the meandering course of rivers, written in the landscape, shows this to be otherwise. Rivers flow today to the low land and thence to the sea. But water seeks its level and if the river bottoms heave, preventing draining along the established route, then what? In most cases, an alternate route is taken, but in many cases an inland lake forms until the water climbs high enough that an alternate outlet can be found. How else have inland lakes formed?
Such heaving river bottoms, blocking drainage, are most notable of late in Thailand, where a relaxation of the accordion fold there allowed the inland lakes to drain toward Bangkok - the great flood of Bangkok so much in the news of late. This type of blockage, and periodic release of trapped waters, is occurring in S America where mountain building in the North Andes is occurring, and in the Himalayan foothills. This cannot be accurately predicted, as to what river might be blocked, what alternate drainage might be taken, or the length of time the situation might endure. There are simply too many variables!